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Post by jack on Sept 27, 2005 6:17:27 GMT
I saw some time ago on this forum that some don't like bunny hops and there was a suggestion that they are bad for you, why is this ? I always used to like them (as long as you bum doesn't touch your heels).
A guy I work with has explained something about plyometric excercise, anybody know any excercises that are particularly applicable to karate ? I always push up very hard and fast on the up stroke of pressups, I'm lead to believe this will help to increase punching speed and power.
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Post by random on Sept 27, 2005 8:35:00 GMT
They put a lot of undue pressure on the knee, and can over stretch the leg muscles, google dynamic stretching for some good articles about the correct way to stretch.
Plyometrics should only be performed by those who have achieved a high level of resistance training fitness, again have a google it is quicker than I can type out an explanation.
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Post by Mr. Precision on Sept 27, 2005 14:56:15 GMT
I always push up very hard and fast on the up stroke of pressups, I'm lead to believe this will help to increase punching speed and power. I've heard pressups aren't very effective. Just hold your body up for 15 seconds a few times. knees & toes on the floor, no more than 45° bend at waist. Hands on floor outwith shoulder width apart at about nose height, bend elbows at approx 90° and hold your body weight off the floor for 15 seconds. 1st & 2nd time it's easy, 3rd-5th time increasingly painful and difficult. Repeat, moving hands to within shoulderwidth and finally hands together, different muscles are used. Total time to complete, < 3mins. |
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Post by Andy on Sept 27, 2005 22:11:34 GMT
I saw some time ago on this forum that some don't like bunny hops and there was a suggestion that they are bad for you, why is this ? I'd bet money it was probably myself who said it. Modern Sports coaching dictates that it is ok to perform squat type movements with the knee's in a beyond 90 degree position, so long as it is done in a controlled manner. What typically happens in 'bunny hopping', is that the back of the thigh and the calf meet, applying pressure on the knee joint in much the same way as a nutcracker cracks nuts. Bye Bye Cartilidge. In this form, it's also an uncontrolled ballistic stretch of the quadriceps, which is a major muscle group you don't want to mess about with. Go to the gym and squat and leg press. There are loads of variation on pressups. Try running a search on 'Scrappers workout's' or Pyramid pushups.  |
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Post by jack on Sept 29, 2005 5:54:33 GMT
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Post by Andy on Sept 30, 2005 17:24:34 GMT
Thanks guys, some good all around info there  I think you're right Andy, it was you, you also said it was an old git that made you do the bunny hops, I'm the same age as that old git. It must be a bunny hop and old git thing. Cool, the trainsforstrength site is excellent. Definitely one to bookmark. Re. the 'Old Git' thing, well I'm no spring chicken myself, but it's a common problem in MA classes. The first time a junior instructor takes a class he either adopts the same set of exercises his seniors offered, which can include many outmoded and potentially damaging sillyness, or worse still, feels the need to invent new exercises just to be different. Another common one I hate, is stooping to touch the floor while running round the hall during a warmup, one handed or two handed. [Bay City Rollers Mode] 'Bye bye sacrum, baby bye byyyye ey ey ey' [/Bay City Rollers Mode] |
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Post by Aefibird on Oct 2, 2005 16:28:54 GMT
Another common one I hate, is stooping to touch the floor while running round the hall during a warmup, one handed or two handed. I HATE that one too. When I used to play cricket (Sheffield United Ladies CC!) I once really badly injured myself doing that warm up. I totally dislike it and feel it is an unsafe method to use. |
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Post by AngelaG on Oct 3, 2005 12:05:05 GMT
Another common one I hate, is stooping to touch the floor while running round the hall during a warmup, one handed or two handed. I HATE that one too. When I used to play cricket (Sheffield United Ladies CC!) I once really badly injured myself doing that warm up. I totally dislike it and feel it is an unsafe method to use. Most sports I have participated in have always used this in their warm up, especially at my old football club. I've never really had any issues with it. |
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Post by jack on Oct 3, 2005 12:41:02 GMT
Yes but girls haven't got sacrums  I can't really see the point in that particular excercise. |
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Post by AngelaG on Oct 3, 2005 12:53:40 GMT
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Post by Andy on Oct 3, 2005 14:45:48 GMT
Yes but girls haven't got sacrums I can't really see the point in that particular excercise. Apologies for any confusion, I referred to the sacrum, as sacroilliac didn't fit in my Bay City Rollers line. Good to hear. Now please stop before you do. Soccer coaches at amatuer level are the worst offenders in terms of stupid, unneccessary and unresearched exercises. |
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Post by AngelaG on Oct 3, 2005 14:55:02 GMT
Soccer coaches at amatuer level are the worst offenders in terms of stupid, unneccessary and unresearched exercises. This is true - they even used to make me run  |
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Post by random on Oct 3, 2005 21:56:46 GMT
I have just discovered a really good exercise, which has probably been around for ages, but…my gas-powered corkscrew ran out of gas (it is the sort where you push what appears to be a large needle into the cork push a button and out it comes). I had to resort to the rusty corkscrew, the sort you have to twist until it is right in then attempt to pull the cork out, yes I know it sounds barbaric but you actually have to pull the cork out, worked up such a sweat trying I had to have a lie down before the wine. If this happens again I shall buy a box of wine.
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Post by Aefibird on Oct 4, 2005 15:43:55 GMT
I have just discovered a really good exercise, which has probably been around for ages, but…my gas-powered corkscrew ran out of gas (it is the sort where you push what appears to be a large needle into the cork push a button and out it comes). I had to resort to the rusty corkscrew, the sort you have to twist until it is right in then attempt to pull the cork out, yes I know it sounds barbaric but you actually have to pull the cork out, worked up such a sweat trying I had to have a lie down before the wine. If this happens again I shall buy a box of wine. Gas powered corkscrew?!  Next time, buy a bottle with a screw-top! lol |
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Post by random on Oct 5, 2005 15:29:07 GMT
srew top, still too new to exercise for me, I could hurt my wrist.  |
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