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Post by AngelaG on Mar 10, 2006 10:05:45 GMT
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2-2075270%2C00.htmlThoughts? The more I hear stuff about this country the more disillusioned and angry I get. I grew up with 2 brothers and 2 sisters. All our holidays were taken in term time because my parents simply could NOT afford the extortionate holiday prices. So the alternative would have been that for all those years we were at school we could not have gone on holiday! Is this fair, or another way of penalising the less well off?
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Post by andym on Mar 10, 2006 10:21:00 GMT
It says without permission from the Head Teacher. All they'd have to do is plead their case and get permission....can't see a problem with it to be honest.
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Post by AngelaG on Mar 10, 2006 12:05:41 GMT
Because in the case mentioned at least they didn't get permission. So it's fine as long as your Head isn't a complete git!
I just think that you can take your children out of school for a week or two once a year without causing any real damage to their education. Especially if timed so that it's not at a vital time of year. (But then again the poor kids seem to have exams every term!)
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Post by andym on Mar 10, 2006 12:29:17 GMT
All parents have to do is get permission, then they can take them away on holiday. I'm not sure what's so nanny state about it.
Examples...
Little Timmy Tearaway is underachieving at school, keeps being naughty, turning up late, truanting. Mr and Mrs Tearaway want to take him away on holiday, they ask permission from the head and find out Little Timmy is a pain in the preverbial. Permission denied!
Little Polly Perfect is top of her class, has an exemplary record, good grades and generally does as she's told. Mr and Mrs Perfect want to take Polly on holiday for being such a good girl. Permission given.
Little Mark Middleoftheroad. Not particularly bright, but achieving acceptable results. Mr and Mrs Middleoftheroad want to take Little Mark away on holiday. They request permission from the head, who makes a decision based on Marks school work/attendance/behaviour. Could be denied or given.
Personally I think it's a good idea. It'll help in making sure 'our future' aren't being rewarded for being little brats.
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Post by AngelaG on Mar 10, 2006 13:34:21 GMT
Schools are under pressure to get 100% attendance, and therefore it will likely that some schools will deny permission purely to keep there performance record up, rather than because of any academic link.
Certainly the school I went to was very uptight about holidays in term time, and I wonder if now the power is in their hands, they actually allow it now?
I think parenting is being taken out of the hands of the parents. In some cases this is a good thing and yet, although the media would have us believe otherwise, the majority of parents have their child's best interests at heart.
Holidays can actually be a very positive contribution to a child's education. (some more so than others)
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Post by andym on Mar 10, 2006 13:40:50 GMT
I see your point completely.  There is ample opportunity for kids to go away out of term time so shouldn't we be condemning the travel agencies who purposely push their prices up around school holidays as well, and not the people who are trying to educate our kids to give them a future? |
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Post by AngelaG on Mar 10, 2006 13:52:39 GMT
Oh indeed. Although it's not just the travel agencies, it's the airlines, the hotels etc. etc. I'm sure that very few parents would take their child out of school if their was an economically viable alternative.
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Post by andym on Mar 10, 2006 14:03:33 GMT
We also have to think of the holidaymakers without kids.
I'm purposely going to Cyprus towards the end of September, simply so I won't have to put up with hoards of kids! ;D
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Post by random on Mar 10, 2006 15:12:54 GMT
We also have to think of the holidaymakers without kids. I'm purposely going to Cyprus towards the end of September, simply so I won't have to put up with hoards of kids! ;D Good luck, I never take a holiday in term time and my holidays are always full of kids. Kids should be in school that is what it is there fro, however rather than pick on the easy targets, those on holiday, they should sort out the truants who never attend, and the idiots who do and spoil it for everybody else. |
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Post by Andy on Mar 11, 2006 0:20:10 GMT
It's not the education system that's to blame obviously, but commercial exploitation.
Whenever that six week block comes up, that's when the prices will go up.
Now if they shifted school holidays to the winter, we'd all be enjoying cheap flights to the med when the weather is at it's best (complete with less kids).
Andym, if you're going anywhere near 'Limassol' in Cyprus, I have a reccomendation for you.
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Post by subzero72 on Mar 11, 2006 6:31:47 GMT
Schools are under pressure to get 100% attendance, and therefore it will likely that some schools will deny permission purely to keep there performance record up, rather than because of any academic link. Certainly the school I went to was very uptight about holidays in term time, and I wonder if now the power is in their hands, they actually allow it now? I think parenting is being taken out of the hands of the parents. In some cases this is a good thing and yet, although the media would have us believe otherwise, the majority of parents have their child's best interests at heart. Holidays can actually be a very positive contribution to a child's education. (some more so than others) I seen parents try to pull that off in our dojo |
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Post by andym on Mar 13, 2006 9:26:27 GMT
It's not the education system that's to blame obviously, but commercial exploitation. Whenever that six week block comes up, that's when the prices will go up. Now if they shifted school holidays to the winter, we'd all be enjoying cheap flights to the med when the weather is at it's best (complete with less kids). Andym, if you're going anywhere near 'Limassol' in Cyprus, I have a reccomendation for you. We're going to Pissouri Bay on the south coast, not sure where that is in relation to Limassol?! |
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Post by AngelaG on Mar 13, 2006 12:11:24 GMT
Pissouri Bay? Hehe sounds rude!
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Post by andym on Mar 13, 2006 14:14:46 GMT
Only to you!  |
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Post by Andy on Mar 13, 2006 19:25:54 GMT
It's not the education system that's to blame obviously, but commercial exploitation. Whenever that six week block comes up, that's when the prices will go up. Now if they shifted school holidays to the winter, we'd all be enjoying cheap flights to the med when the weather is at it's best (complete with less kids). Andym, if you're going anywhere near 'Limassol' in Cyprus, I have a reccomendation for you. We're going to Pissouri Bay on the south coast, not sure where that is in relation to Limassol?! Limassols South East I think. Went on my honeymoon. One of the trips you can do is across too Egypt which is good. One we didn't do was hire a jeep and head up into the Troodos mountains, but I'm told that's beautiful www.visitcyprus.org.cy/ |
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