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Post by AngelaG on Sept 9, 2004 9:39:01 GMT
Is karate really for everyone?
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Post by searcher2 on Sept 10, 2004 8:51:44 GMT
Yes.
Even the morons are entitled to train, just not with me.
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Post by AngelaG on Sept 10, 2004 10:29:39 GMT
I don’t know if that was meant to be comedy or not but that post just nearly made me p*** myself laughing!
Short but sweet.
I had intended to build on the original question but I’m not sure I need to now!
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Post by gh0st on Sept 10, 2004 11:09:59 GMT
Yes. Even the morons are entitled to train, just not with me. Fair comment!!!
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Post by AngelaG on Sept 10, 2004 11:21:08 GMT
Fair comment!!! Says the man with the guinea pig avatar! ;D
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Post by searcher2 on Sept 11, 2004 13:49:08 GMT
Feeling slightly more patient:
"when the student is ready the teacher will appear"
Although the above is trotted out piece-meal, it ends up proving correct. The number of students who leave because we do not fullfill some pre-conceived notion of what training would be like is phenomenal. Hopefully they find someone closer to their ideal. For someone this will be hard, marching up and down basic techniques, for others it will be gentle practice of partner work just indicating what the likely result would be; and for others it is a complete beating and a bucket of blood that signifies a good training session.
Is Karate for everyone - yes. What is Karate? For whom?
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Post by shotopants on Sept 11, 2004 16:40:08 GMT
Is it possible to train without a teacher - say when you reach 3rd dan? Or is that arrogance?
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Post by demonwarrior on Sept 25, 2004 15:54:43 GMT
I'd say that everyone needs some sort of feedback at some point, because otherwise how would you know whether you were doing it right or not? Even if you don't need a full time teacher you'd still need a check in every now and then.
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Post by Aefibird on Sept 25, 2004 16:04:28 GMT
I agree Karate is for everyone. Whether everyone is for Karate is another matter... I'd also say that even the high dan grades need a 'check-in' with another of their grade or higher from time to time, even if it is only to moan about current students and compare injuries. It's good to discuss techniques and forms with others - I hope that I'm still doing that in 30 years time.
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Post by AngelaG on Sept 25, 2004 22:31:19 GMT
It's good to discuss techniques and forms with others - I hope that I'm still doing that in 30 years time. I agree but I'd also say that you don't always need a same or higher grade for this all the time either. A lower grade may be able to tell you if your kata and basics etc. look 'right' without actually being able to do it themselves.... the problem there would be realising they have something to give (asking them what they think), and accepting and working on their advice. And the lower grade has to be brave enough to give their true critique in the first place when asked ;D
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Post by Aefibird on Sept 26, 2004 11:07:00 GMT
I agree but I'd also say that you don't always need a same or higher grade for this all the time either. A lower grade may be able to tell you if your kata and basics etc. look 'right' without actually being able to do it themselves.... the problem there would be realising they have something to give (asking them what they think), and accepting and working on their advice. And the lower grade has to be brave enough to give their true critique in the first place when asked ;D True. You can sometimes learn as much from a whitebelt as from a blackbelt!
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Post by AngelaG on Sept 26, 2004 15:15:03 GMT
Although I definitely wouldn't recommend giving unsolicited advice to a senior grade. ;D
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Post by Aefibird on Sept 26, 2004 15:53:32 GMT
Also true!
Well, not unless that person had a 'death-wish' and wanted to be used for regular full-contact demonstrations... ;D
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Post by AngelaG on Sept 27, 2004 7:16:05 GMT
Although thinking about it unless you are instructing it's not really right to go up to a lower grade and give unsolicited advice either.
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Post by Aefibird on Sept 27, 2004 16:12:55 GMT
No, but there's less chance of a lower grade beating up a higher grade for offering unsolicited advice than vice versa.
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