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Post by AngelaG on Oct 8, 2004 23:07:37 GMT
When you punch or kick during kihon or kata you need to supply a little bit of tension at the end of your technique (kime?). Otherwise you risk hyper-extending your joints and doing long term damage. However when you punch a bag (opponent) you no longer need this tension as the target will stop your fist/foot and prevent the hyper-extention.
How easy do people find the swap from the little bit of tension to being totally relaxed? Are there any exercises that you do to help you relax?
I think that no matter how hard and how often you train you will always tense up in a 'real-lifeTM' situation, so I think it is best to train as fully relaxed as possible to train your body to the max, so that your best is better than your opponents.
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Post by padwan on Oct 9, 2004 19:03:59 GMT
when you punch or kick you will always produce more power if you are relaxed than if you go for the ' more traditional' method of tightning up. Bearing in mind that emotion - positive / negative is probably the biggest single aspect that controls how your body reacts
- just think of somewhere / somebody / something thats makes you happy & chilled out & low & behold - Roberts your mothers brother & you automatically start chillin out & your muscles unlock & you can hit with loads more power with loads less effort.
The key is getting this feeeling locked into your mind so you can just switch to it whenever you want.
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Post by david m on Oct 14, 2004 11:24:05 GMT
but then, there's the whole muscle memory thing. When you really need to punch, you won't have time to think about what you are doing, so will react reflexively (is that even a word?!?) So, surely it's better to train as you want to perform? For me this means hitting bags and pads hard, but relaxed, and performing air techniques relaxed and light - like a boxer shadow boxing, rather than the traditional Shotokan strong, focussed way. Of course, this probably means I'll never pass another Shotokan grading in my life! Oh well....  |
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Post by padwan on Oct 14, 2004 15:11:29 GMT
I agree that you have to train as you want to perfom- but at the same time you have to train in an 'environment' that will bring you emotionally as close to the real thing as possible and then learn to be relaxed & still generate power.
This way first of all you dont just stand there frozen as the shock level is too much - which can & does happen even during training - but at least then after you end up looking like a panda you can have a cup of tea & laugh about it & you are safe - well I do anyway - but unfortunately in real life you have this safety net.
& I am more than happy to leave the air techniques to other people lol ;D
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Post by Aefibird on Oct 17, 2004 14:35:19 GMT
& I am more than happy to leave the air techniques to other people lol ;D I like air techniques...to my knowledge air doesn't hit back!! lol  ;D j/k. In my dojo we do a lot of 'training as you want to perform' (as david m puts it), with the use of heavy bags and pads and the like. |
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Post by padwan on Oct 17, 2004 17:00:52 GMT
it does in Cambridgeshire lol ;D yeah we use the punch bags a bit but have now had to progress on to using doubled up sections of the thick 'judo mats' sorry cant remember the make -as seem to keep breaking all the others + its always handy if you have got some of your ribs left when you go to work on monday lol  |
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Post by david m on Oct 18, 2004 8:57:46 GMT
Heres a quick recommendation - thai pads!
One of the common drawbacks I've found in karate clubs when doing impact work, is the tendency to just use 1 tecnique on the pads. Thai pads are small enough to allow your partner to move them about to allow combinations to be thrown, with a little extra realism in that your partner is moving, rather than just standing there.
If you have a Thai Boxing club near you, nip down and find out where they get their pads from and see if you can cut a deal with them. Maybe also try a couple of classes to see how they use the pads. It's an education in itself!
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Post by padwan on Oct 18, 2004 16:16:49 GMT
Yeah I used to do Muay Thai for a few years when I was a lot younger & less damaged & lol & totally agree with what you are saying !!!!!
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Post by Aefibird on Oct 18, 2004 16:28:41 GMT
Heres a quick recommendation - thai pads! I agree! Thai pads are a great invention - we use them a lot at my dojo. We also have some 'heavy duty' head and body armour that my Sensei puts on from time to time. We then go full whack with our techniques and practice them full speed and power on him. Quite often in my dojo we do what would probably be called 'full contact' sparring, but only to the torso. By wearing the super-duper head guard we can practice dinging Sensei round the head (get our own back for all the times he hits us ) and it helps to feel what a full-force or almost full-force strike to the head is like for the person doing the attacking. |
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Post by AngelaG on Oct 22, 2004 21:05:20 GMT
Has anyone else (outside of my dojo of course) used ether (sp?) foam?
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Post by padwan on Oct 23, 2004 19:03:29 GMT
yeah we used to use it but just kept destroying them too fast so have now moved on to using section of the thick judo mats doubled up - sorry cant remember the make  |
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