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Post by AngelaG on Jan 17, 2005 22:30:38 GMT
Apart from constantly drilling, does anyone have any training tips for improving an Ushiro Geri, specifically height and direction (without sacrificing speed and power). I find it very hard to work out whether I have got it directly behind me (if it's 45 degrees off I tend to notice ;D) and hard to keep the foot pointing downwards.
If anyone has hints and tips for practices I could do around the home I'd be really grateful!
Angela
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Post by RDKI on Jan 18, 2005 18:03:15 GMT
Ushiro geri? I hate it, I hate it, I hate it ,I hate it! I always have trouble understanding this - if someone is far enough behind you to kick, they are far enough away for you to turn around and punch aren't they? Also If they are more than arms length behind you why not just run away? And if they are in front of you why spin to kick them ?? Sorry Ange, not a great training tip - I just dont see the sense of that kick thats all (it has nothing to do with the fact that I could never do it very well  ) |
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Post by Aefibird on Jan 21, 2005 23:11:56 GMT
Ushiro geri? I hate it, I hate it, I hate it ,I hate it! I always have trouble understanding this - if someone is far enough behind you to kick, they are far enough away for you to turn around and punch aren't they? Also If they are more than arms length behind you why not just run away? And if they are in front of you why spin to kick them ?? Sorry Ange, not a great training tip - I just dont see the sense of that kick thats all (it has nothing to do with the fact that I could never do it very well ) I totally agree! Why kick someone behing you when a punch would work just as well? And why would anyone seemingly lose their marbles and turn away from their opponent with their back to them, just to be able to kick them.  I dun geddit... Anyway, I found that the best tip was to practice with a mirror when I first started learning this kick. Also, stand with your leg held up in a 'perfect' Ushiro geri position - hopefully it might help you to get a feel for what a correct kick should be like, so that if you do a 'wrong' kick then it will feel awkward. Practice with a partner, if poss, who can tell you (in a nice way!) where you are going wrong. Sorry, I haven't got much sparkling advice to offer either. I too hate ushiro geri, along with anything else that involves spinning or jumping or flying or a combination of the above. There just aint no need for it IMO!!  |
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Post by AngelaG on Jan 23, 2005 13:48:35 GMT
I believe the best application for Ushiro Geri is to "reap" an opponent's leg out from under them back behind you, especially in a close up grappling style fight situation.
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Post by Petek on Jan 23, 2005 18:54:08 GMT
A real tricky one, that. My favorite way to practice, is to break it down. Firstly,practice turning from front stance or a freestyle stance into the chamber position, for ushiro-geri, keep everything tucked in tight. The next exercise is to practice kicking behind you, standing on one leg. Sounds very obvious, doesn't it. By far the best exercise is to have someone standing in front of you, stepping back as you try to kick them,(again an obvious one !). Ushiro-geri is a funny technique, I find the more I concentate on getting it right, the worse my technique gets !, a relaxed mind/ attituide helps.
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Post by Aefibird on Jan 23, 2005 21:28:47 GMT
Ushiro-geri is a funny technique, I find the more I concentate on getting it right, the worse my technique gets !, a relaxed mind/ attituide helps. I've found that. The more I think about it, the worse my ushiro-geri becomes. Trying to clear my mind and not thinking about the kick makes it better. |
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Post by RDKI on Jan 23, 2005 23:33:23 GMT
I still hate it  |
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Post by AngelaG on Jan 27, 2005 8:02:38 GMT
I still hate it Very...errr...... helpful...  |
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Post by Petek on Feb 1, 2005 19:05:25 GMT
I'm godan, & I'm not wild about it !
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Post by Shotoman on Apr 15, 2005 22:57:08 GMT
You should see ushiro-geri as a defensive kick rather than offensive. The best use of ushiro-geri is when you are at close range and hence punching distance. Let's say you are in right zenkutsu-dachi. You could do the spin and kick with your left leg but better still is to actually bring the front foot to the rear and then deliver the ushiro-geri back at your opponent. This would normally be a follow-up type of attack. Failing that, it all comes down to correct breathing. Again in zenkutsu-dachi, breath in and bring your rear foot up as you bend your knee and turn your back towards target. Breath out as you execute the kick. Breath in as you bring the kicking foot back and breath out as you step forward. As you breath out, you should feel like you are pushing down on your lower abs - you should be able to push against your fingers if you push them into the lowest stomach muscles. Try it standing up - expell the air from your body and push out against your fingers in your lower abdomen. It is this contraction you are looking to attain as you breath out during execution of the kick and it is this compression that will stop you losing balance. You should always try to perform ushiro geri slow and controlled - speed will come with time but first break it down and get it controlled. Tensing the stomach will stop you losing balance and make sure you keep that supporting leg bent throughout the movement. God, I can go on...  |
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Post by ukshorinryu on Jun 12, 2005 23:07:50 GMT
i used it a fair bit in competition when i was younger, offensivly and defensivly, the key i found was getting your body rotated and drop the weight quickly (set up with backfist) then simply thrust the kick out from a solid base.
thats the tip to improve it !
the few times it landed correctly i had no control over the technique and was lucky to not have caused serious damage
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Post by Aefibird on Jun 13, 2005 13:37:59 GMT
Thats the trouble with some people who use that kick in competition - they let it fly but don't really have good control with it.
Personally, I find Ushiro-geri a pain in the arse; one of those kicks that takes loads of drilling to get it correct until one day the lightbuld will come on and you'll go "oh yeah! I geddit now..."
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Post by andym on Jun 15, 2005 10:37:34 GMT
I don't think there is a quick way to get it right other than just drilling it Angela. I hate it with a passion and as much as I try hardly ever do it right. Even had a 1 to 1 session with my instructor to go through the finer points, still don't get it...lol
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Post by AngelaG on Jun 15, 2005 11:16:21 GMT
Damn those long winded practicing routes! ;D
I think I am improving with it - I just hope that I'm not deceiving myself. It might be worth trying to get someone to record me doing it, so that I can see exactly what I am doing, and therefore try to adjust it accordingly.
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Post by Aefibird on Jun 15, 2005 12:26:59 GMT
Yeah, damn them! Don'tcha just hate it when you have to actually practice something endlessly in order to get it right...   Getting someone to video you would be a good plan. Once you've got over the initial "OMG do I really look like that?" then you'll be able to keep a good record of your progress. I was watching an old grading tape of mine a couple of weeks back. It was from when I was testing for 4th kyu. I cringed at how much my feet stuck out... I *think* I've improved a lot since then... |
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I dun geddit...
