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Post by dojo on Nov 4, 2005 10:37:57 GMT
I have dealt with challenges from the first time I stepped in the dojo. Was weak and uncoordinated totally inflexible and dumb Now .. i have quite a stamina, have good flexibility, I am fast and coordinated and still growing as a martial artist. There are other challenges and I am sure I'll conquer the next stage and the next and the next
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Post by steelwire1 on Nov 4, 2005 16:38:51 GMT
Tony Leung, steelwire mantis class at Mile end, 1981.
This big skinhead geezer comes pushin in, all bluster, big red face on him. Laughing at our doi chong and 3 step arrow form. We just keeps going, not looking at him as it were.
Tony, keen as mustard by the way, sees im comin a mile off. Steps round the back and in the front door behind this geezer. Taps im on the shoulder and quick as a flash- shock power bridging technique. Could have followed up with a blood sand palm too but this geezer were well out of it by that point. Crystal clear I might add.
We dragged him out from and let im come round in the street. Pissing ourselves laughing as he stumbles off, you could say.
Steve
'Chow Gar Mantis family student wef: 1985'
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Post by Aefibird on Nov 5, 2005 20:22:46 GMT
I have dealt with challenges from the first time I stepped in the dojo. Was weak and uncoordinated totally inflexible and dumb Now .. i have quite a stamina, have good flexibility, I am fast and coordinated and still growing as a martial artist. There are other challenges and I am sure I'll conquer the next stage and the next and the next Great post, well said!
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Post by maskedman on Nov 25, 2005 2:10:20 GMT
Challanges are a big part of the MA culture here, I have had many fights in this manner. However they are issued with respect and rules are set in place (similar to UFC), and opponents go at it! I think it should be encouraged in this manner!
I find it strange that alot of you say that you will not defend your style, come on you must want to test your skills against another style sometimes! Its no different from tournaments!
*bows respectfully*
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Post by Aefibird on Nov 25, 2005 16:23:21 GMT
I find it strange that alot of you say that you will not defend your style, come on you must want to test your skills against another style sometimes! Its no different from tournaments! I do defend my style. I do fight people from other styles, but AT TOURNAMENTS. Why would I want to go around causing trouble and stirring up hatred amongst styles when, if I wish to 'test' my skills I can do it at an organised tournament? Don't go looking for trouble, as it will find you and it could be more than you can handle.
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Post by maskedman on Nov 25, 2005 22:21:58 GMT
I find it strange that alot of you say that you will not defend your style, come on you must want to test your skills against another style sometimes! Its no different from tournaments! I do defend my style. I do fight people from other styles, but AT TOURNAMENTS. Why would I want to go around causing trouble and stirring up hatred amongst styles when, if I wish to 'test' my skills I can do it at an organised tournament? Don't go looking for trouble, as it will find you and it could be more than you can handle. Maybe you should read my whole post again where I said: However they are issued with respect and rules are set in place (similar to UFC), and opponents go at it! I think it should be encouraged in this manner!Sorry about the coloring, I cant seem to find tthe quote button??? Anyway, we issus challanges, we receive challanges...that, to me at least, is traditional!!! There are rules, if both parties agree. If you want to have this type of match, you bring a law enforcement officer with you and a ref! It is like a tournament, just without warning really! I think it prepares you better than training for a fight in X amount of weeks! *bows respectfully*
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Post by Aefibird on Nov 25, 2005 22:26:13 GMT
I did read your WHOLE post. I still stand by what I said. I disagree with your way of 'testing' yourself and your art, but if it works for you and both parties are happy with it... I just still think that organised tournaments are a better way. Personally, I see your was as no better than a match between drunken thugs on a Saturday night who have been turfed out of the bar. To me, there's not a lot of difference between their scrapping and yours. However, I think we will have to agree to disagree. I'm glad that that method works for you.
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Post by random on Nov 26, 2005 0:31:48 GMT
What kind of ‘fight ‘ involves the police (is some guise or another) and a referee? I know a competition.
P1: “I challenge you to a fight” P2: “Ok, PC Plod will be there to make sure we don’t hurt each other, and Postman Pat will be the referrer to make sure the fight is fare.” P1: “Crystal”
Disclaimer
Can I apologise now for sinking to this level, it has been a particularly hard week.
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Post by maskedman on Nov 26, 2005 3:10:10 GMT
I did read your WHOLE post. I still stand by what I said. I disagree with your way of 'testing' yourself and your art, but if it works for you and both parties are happy with it...
I just still think that organised tournaments are a better way. Personally, I see your was as no better than a match between drunken thugs on a Saturday night who have been turfed out of the bar. To me, there's not a lot of difference between their scrapping and yours.
However, I think we will have to agree to disagree. I'm glad that that method works for you.
Well I respect that you personally feel we are no better than drunken thugs...and hope you will accept that I personally feel that your way is a way for cowards...but yes, lets agree to disagree.
I seriously put it down to cultural differences, the western way, is not the same as the eastern way, which is not the way of the south pacific etc, etc, etc.
What kind of ‘fight ‘ involves the police (is some guise or another) and a referee? I know a competition.
P1: “I challenge you to a fight” P2: “Ok, PC Plod will be there to make sure we don’t hurt each other, and Postman Pat will be the referrer to make sure the fight is fare.” P1: “Crystal”
Well since we have had a few people go to prison because the losing party wanted to save face. The police come to witness that both combatants agree to the fight! The referee is there to help people follow the rules that are stipulated!
*bows respectfully*
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Post by MasterH on Nov 26, 2005 13:49:15 GMT
IMNSHO
Not to be a wet blanket here, let's go back to the chalenge........Someone walks in and challenges the instructor. Simple answer would be show them the door. If someone is challenging someone to a fight in a martial art school, they are crazy, I try not to fight crazy people, nothing good can come out of it. If they refuse to leave, put them on the floor, call the authorities. We are in a unique position, and we need to be aware that there are consequences to all our actions. That being what impression am I going to leave my students, what is the major malfunction of this guy, if I cream him will he sue, finally what are the laws in this case.
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Post by maskedman on Nov 27, 2005 20:49:15 GMT
IMNSHO Not to be a wet blanket here, let's go back to the chalenge........Someone walks in and challenges the instructor. Simple answer would be show them the door. If someone is challenging someone to a fight in a martial art school, they are crazy, I try not to fight crazy people, nothing good can come out of it. If they refuse to leave, put them on the floor, call the authorities. We are in a unique position, and we need to be aware that there are consequences to all our actions. That being what impression am I going to leave my students, what is the major malfunction of this guy, if I cream him will he sue, finally what are the laws in this case. Yes but this is a challange between two schools! There is no just walking in and saying "lets get it on!" We contact each other by phone, than a official letter is sent, the venue is set and then the fight takes place. Usually in the police or army gym. *bows respectfully*
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Post by MasterH on Nov 28, 2005 3:43:58 GMT
Ya-know I should read all three pages before commenting. As long as rules are fallowed, there shouldn't be an issue. Make it fun, leave the ego's at the door.
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Post by maskedman on Nov 28, 2005 20:41:02 GMT
Ya-know I should read all three pages before commenting. As long as rules are fallowed, there shouldn't be an issue. Make it fun, leave the ego's at the door. Thats usually the plan! *bows respectfully*
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smr
KR White Belt
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Post by smr on Nov 28, 2005 21:41:25 GMT
I'd hand them a tournament schedule, and highlight the dates that I plan to compete.
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Post by maskedman on Nov 28, 2005 21:45:00 GMT
I'd hand them a tournament schedule, and highlight the dates that I plan to compete. This gives them an opportunity to gear up beforehand...train for it. The fights are organised between masters and the fighters are not told till the day....if you see some people walk into your scholl you know its fight night and you best be ready! *bows respectfully*
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