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Post by kenshiro on Dec 17, 2005 2:00:33 GMT
Someone's evolution is regression to others.
The style of Karate has been significantly changed after it was introduced to Japan main land. The mass education style fit the era and it vastly spreaded all over the world. The number of styles keeps increasing and Karate is no more a secret martial art but anyone can easily learn it.
This seems good, but at the same time the original karate is going to be lost. Some admit Shotokan is traditional but others regard it as a new modern karate. Simplification and focus on particular techniques might help you become strong in a short term, but if you want to keep Karate (or other martial arts) throughout your life, you will need a much wider vision and the experiences of the old masters would definitely help.
I think that the original Karate already contained all the necessary moves for a human ie essence of martial arts, and I have been seeking for it. What is evolution would be how to apply it to the current world and the daily life. It is always a controversial subject.
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adamb
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Post by adamb on Dec 17, 2005 17:58:59 GMT
i have not been training in karate for long, but in my lowley opinion i think evolution and change is inevitable. things change with time.
different sensei's teach in different ways, isnt that evolution in itself?
if there is something that you want to change in the way u practice a style or add something and your way makes u a more well rounded or better martial artist then why not?
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Post by Andy on Dec 18, 2005 3:10:07 GMT
Someone's evolution is regression to others. And Vice Versa. Original Karate? What are you after exactly? |
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bob
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Post by bob on Dec 18, 2005 23:09:49 GMT
as far as shotokan or traditional karate is concerned ask sensei nambu about evolution. thats what nambudo is. the only thing i would say is that you have to do it his way. learn it as it is taught and once you understand the principles of the existing art fully then adapt it to your thinking. it takes a lot of training and study before you are in a position to change a martial art.
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Post by Andy on Dec 18, 2005 23:42:23 GMT
Shu Ha Ri.
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bob
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Post by bob on Dec 19, 2005 22:22:36 GMT
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Post by kenshiro on Dec 20, 2005 2:37:07 GMT
If you know Shu-Ha-Ri, you would know what I meant.
I meant the essence of karate that should be taken over from age to age. It would be still existing in the current styles as long as Shu-Ha-Ri has been carried out correctly, even though the surface has been changed.
Bob, Shu-Ha-Ri is a Japanese term that represents the cycle of learning, which is broken down to 3 phases, Protection (Shu), Break (Ha), and Departure (Ri).
If you google "Shu Ha Ri", you will find a number of pages explaining this term in more details.
Message edited by Aefibird to fix quotes.
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Post by AngelaG on Dec 28, 2005 0:43:08 GMT
Someone's evolution is regression to others. The style of Karate has been significantly changed after it was introduced to Japan main land. The mass education style fit the era and it vastly spreaded all over the world. The number of styles keeps increasing and Karate is no more a secret martial art but anyone can easily learn it. This seems good, but at the same time the original karate is going to be lost. Some admit Shotokan is traditional but others regard it as a new modern karate. Simplification and focus on particular techniques might help you become strong in a short term, but if you want to keep Karate (or other martial arts) throughout your life, you will need a much wider vision and the experiences of the old masters would definitely help. I think that the original Karate already contained all the necessary moves for a human ie essence of martial arts, and I have been seeking for it. What is evolution would be how to apply it to the current world and the daily life. It is always a controversial subject. Is it modern, is it evolved, is it traditional??? I think half these problems occur when people fixate on ryu-ha rather than thinking in terms or karate. This leads to a somewhat blinkered view of "shotokan must do this", or "goju must do that". Really? Why? What core principles make up shotokan and differentiate it from, for example, wado or goju? Who dictates those principles and where are all these rules and regulations written down? Arts evolve. It's not a new thing. Yoshitaka Funakoshi took "Shotokan" in a slightly different direction to Gichin Funakoshi, and as the arts got handed down each new instructor will put their own individual interpretation on their art. As long as they know why they are doing this, and can give good reason why this is to the betterment of their karate surely this is a good thing? Obviously bad habits handed down are a bad thing.  |
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