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Post by AngelaG on Feb 27, 2006 13:52:16 GMT
See poll
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Post by andym on Feb 27, 2006 16:15:40 GMT
I voted principals as they give the kata meaning
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Post by Aefibird on Feb 27, 2006 17:40:01 GMT
I voted other, but actually meant to vote Principles...my bad...
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thingy
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Post by thingy on Feb 28, 2006 12:26:15 GMT
I too voted principles, because i want to be in the gang, and because i think it's the right answer.
I think it's a progression thing though, you give people the techniques at the very beginning start, because this gives you the ability to move your body in the way you want to move your body.
Peoples brains don't really seem geared for principles too soon. Give them a technique and say "this is working because of x and y", and it's like they nod their head, and an amount of what you say is going in, but the bulk of concentration is really in getting the technique to work, that's what people see at first and want to be getting to work.
I think a brain needs a bit more time with principles, it needs to start recognising similarities and twining them together. I think a teacher can teach as many techniques as they want, but a good deal of the principles learning goes on in ones own head.
That's not to say you can't be taught a principle, particularly when your body has been educated to be co-ordinated and doing what you want it to (so you're not having to concentrate on movement so much) , but to understand it and believe in it you need some time to take it in, play around with it and find out it's context.
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Post by pasmith on Feb 28, 2006 13:51:33 GMT
Principals for me too. I'd put principals, tactics, goals, objectives etc above techniques every time. Techniques are the final expression of all of those things and are therefore entirely fluid during application. At least to me anyway.
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Post by AngelaG on Feb 28, 2006 22:05:43 GMT
OK, here is an interesting question, especially for those that think kata should be principle led. If one analyses the principles behind a simple technique (for argument's sake say gedan barai), and works out why the move works, if we then apply said principles to an attack but the move looks little like gedan barai is the application still applicable bunkai to the kata move?
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Post by subzero72 on Mar 7, 2006 5:29:16 GMT
The Principles behind the Techniques is what I voted for too
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